ASoleciSticlegion

..or as much of one as possible.

T: You really need to stop going after me for stating my opinion which had nothing to do with any roleplays we were in.
T: The level your taking this two, I just read your blog again, is a bit childish.
T: I shouldn't have come at you on your blog like that but instead wrote something a bit less antagonistic to get my point across, I know this.
J33f: That's really the only reason you have, for being a bitch to me.
T: Not really.
J33f: Truly.
J33f: Ever since the kid, you've been nothing but naggy and nasty -- and I understand sleep deprivation gets to people and it's infinitely more stressful.
T: My blog was only in a very small fashion inspired by you. I've seen many people that do the same things as you and I felt the need to vent, as you did in yours.
T: You haven't talked to me since the kid so how would you know?
J33f: But I have nothing against you, and I frankly, don't even know how this escalated to where it is. You just took us there, for fun, I imagine.
T: Don't pretend to understand something about me when you never bothered to ask.
J33f: Lol.
T: Which brings me to my point..
J33f: Take it out on me, if you feel like it.
J33f: I'm just an internet face, you've never met. I'd rather your hate be directed here than elsewhere, as I'm rather accustomed to it. XD
T: We should have talked about the roleplays we were in instead of letting them get into the mess they were. My words against your character in the story did not reflect on you and what your talking about concerning 'having someone else step in' or whatever nonsense.
T: I hardly hate you Jeff.
T: You just annoy me.
T: And I would treat you the same in person.
T: Unlike most people I'm not going to hide behind a computer screen and pretend I'm big and bad but have no IRL balls to back it up.
J33f: Most women don't.
J33f: It's actually a psychological thing, to let the tongue fly loose.
J33f: Lol.
T: As to the reason I left the SW RP? You had been lagging when I was active and then when you became active again I took a leave from writing, which I posted on Valucre, for everyone to see. If I knew I had to contact you and Alex personally I would have.
T: I do.
T: Most people don't like the truth, that makes them have to face reality and by doing so face their own fuck-ups. Oh well. I'm truthful and if you and others don't like it that's on you.
T: But I digress...
T: The whole roleplay shenanigans were obviously misunderstood and if you felt this way for all this time, since it has been awhile, you should have contacted me.
T: I haven't heard a peep from you in a long time, good, bad, or anything else.
J33f: No one has.
J33f: I haven't been using messenger often, cause I don't want to hear people bitch about stupid shit, or ask me dumb questions.
T: Now I could have posted all that with much cussing and snarkiness on the board, I didn't because even though I feel you are wrong I did not want to take it to the level you obviously enjoy.
J33f: I was gone from Xmas til now, essentially.
J33f: Lol.
T: Alright, so there's the reason.
J33f: I always enjoy a little drama.
T: I noticed.
J33f: It makes me laugh
T: I don't, must be why we don't click.
T: Don't get me wrong as I stated if you push I'll push back but other than that I like to linger and partake of the awesomness that is Valucre.
T: The other reason i was a bit miffed with you right there. ^
J33f: Not at all.
T: You seem to be downing our fair gril quite a lot as of late.
T: girl*^
J33f: You read something that didn't pertain to you, and still took it as an insult and me bitching.
J33f: And now when you read that same blog, two other people popped in and said the same damn thing.
J33f: Which just made you look like a fool, for taking it out of context, when it was a truthful thead.
J33f: thread*
T: I never took it as an insult. I've been watching you do this for a long ass time. You bitch about Valucre, you bitch about people not following through, you bitch about nothing changing.
T: You bitch a lot and I called you on that.
T: I could of said it better, understandably but that was what it was at it's core.
J33f: And it's all true, therefore can't be classified as bitching, but pointing out issues that a new community needs to make in order to bring healthy growth, and change.
T: You don't point them out Jeff you belittle.
J33f: You're just obviously taking this to heart, and seeing it in a light that you want, and then complaining to a complainer.
T: Your tone, even textually has taken on a nastiness that surprises even me.
J33f: Well, then that's your problem, not mine.
T: No, I'm not. Try and listen for a second.
T: Exactly.
J33f: If you can't read text with an open mind, then it's really not my boggle.
T: But as you posted your grievances about your issues with me I am free to post mine.
J33f: That's like misinterrupterting (i know I fucked this), a text from V, and then being like - OMGBLOWUP when he meant it another way.
T: Hardly.
J33f: XD
T: Let's try this..
J33f: It's the same fuckin thing
J33f: Text to text
J33f: You cannot possibly know that right now, I'm smiling at you.
J33f: That and Alex is making me laugh in another PM
T: You wrote something you've written many times before to air your frustration at the state of Valucre and it's members, correct?
J33f: But that's the entire point.
T: You can smile all you want I'm not upset. This is a discussion.
J33f: Not really - a discussion is reading something and being able to understand the other side of it.
T: I'm attempting to understand your logic and in turn see if you can understand my own without turning this into a fit of stupidity.
T: Lol.
T: Yep, it is.
J33f: Instead of calling it bitching and trying to get under my skin, you could have merely said -- I think you're right, but going about it the wrong way.
T: Did I not say that?
J33f: But no. You decided to go on the attack, and obviously, if we're here now - I said something you didn't like.
J33f: XD
T: Did I not say I typed it the wrong way and then explain my true intent?
J33f: I actually don't even see why you care.
J33f: Once a week posting?
J33f: OOC only?
J33f: I mean, really? You care?
T: I care because airing our issues on the board is only adding to the ridiculous, and useless, drama.
J33f: That's like when James comes in and bitches at people.
J33f: No one takes him seriously.
J33f: ...
J33f: LOL
J33f: You don't get it.
J33f: Drama - FEEDS.
J33f: It FEEDS the board.
J33f: As much as you hate it
J33f: If I start shit, it will be FLOOODEDDDD
J33f: with posts.
J33f: Why?
J33f: It's the MOB mentality.
T: I do care, about the board. Even if I don't post I have been with Valucre for awhile and enjoy reading the things other people post, even while I have no writing of my own to display.
J33f: I've been doing Forum RP and it's all the same.
J33f: You know what the saying is, right?
T: So you feed the idiocy to generate more activity?
J33f: If you don't vote: you can't bitch about who wins or loses.
J33f:
J33f: Sometimes, yes.
J33f: That's why I pushed the Palgard siege as long as I did.
T: Yet then you at times have bitched about such idiocy.
T: Seems counter productive to me.
J33f: How many Gaia Online kides joined Valucre from that?
J33f: Lolol
J33f: Without me pushing and causing insane drama, Roen and Ace wouldn't be here now.
J33f: Just think about it.
T: And how many did you drive off with your snarky words?
J33f: When do you see insane activity?
J33f: Only the people who are easily butt hurt or offended.
J33f: Sadly though, for as rude as I've been to sidewalk, the bitch is STILL around.
J33f: /facepalm
T: But they could of been quite productive on the site for all you know, hurt feelings aside.
J33f: She's obviously a glutton for punishment.
T: Did she offend you somehow?
J33f: FEEEEELLLLINNNNGGGSSSSSSS
T: I know her writing might not be up to par in some peoples eyes but she seems pleasant enough.
J33f: Yes, actually. By joining a writing board and insisting that she doesn't need help and she's good.
J33f: When she in fact, fucking sucks.
J33f: And needs help, but wont accept it.
T: Some say the same about you.
J33f: Let them.
T: That's not the point.
J33f: You don't see people coming and complaining to me, or about me.
J33f: Not unless they're like you, and they just have some death note?
J33f: lol
T: Point is everyone has people they don't like but they don't take the offensive and batter those people into submission.
T: You really think you are the shit, huh?
J33f: Then let me say it like this.
J33f: If you're in a role play with someone
J33f: who is just so awful
J33f: you cant hardly read their posts
J33f: what do you do.
J33f: and it's NOT just affecting you
J33f: it's affecting everyone in this particular RP
J33f: like 7 people and 1 bad apple.
J33f: Do you tell her she sucks and needs to leave?
T: Honestly? I know who I'm getting into a roleplay with and their set of skills before I join. I don't just join every and anything so I can pretend I'm some sort of model Valucre member since I post 12 times a day.
J33f: And i don't think I'm the shit by any means. I can list at least 5 people on this board, who would roll me in a writing contest. In a battle tourney, etc.
J33f: There's this thing called being a team-player.
T: No. I tell her what's up, without sugar coating it and go from there. She freaks and leaves that's on her, she asks for help, I try and aid her...
J33f: You get it, because I did it with you.
J33f: Did I really want to RP some NPC in Tia? No, not really.
J33f: But it's my forum occupation.
J33f: To assist.
J33f: To help. To expand others.
T: Then why did you step up? I never asked you to join, you volunteered.
J33f: It's not all about you. =)
J33f: Of course I did.
T: Not if you don't want to.
J33f: Why, though/
J33f: Doesn't matter what I want or don't want.
T: because things like this happen.
J33f: if Carlos came and said, I want you to lead an army that dies in this plot, because it's for this storyline
J33f: I'd be there and do it.
J33f: I'm a Storyteller. It's my position.
T: You go into a roleplay already feeling less then thrilled and if stupidity arises you take it so out of context it's ridiculous.
J33f: To be active, to engage.
J33f: Not at all.
J33f: You claimed that I wasn't active enough in your RP, because I think I (lol) skipped a day or something.
J33f: Didn't really consult me, just went behind me and re-asked.
T: Really? Because taking offense to something my character did to yours and some confusion about wanting to replace you turned into a nasty post that had nothing to do with the subject on hand.. Concerning the blog, that is.
J33f: And then you were a bitch ICly. If this was real life and we just met, and you were a bitch -- I'd leave you where you were and walk off. So why would I escort you anywhere?
T: I didn't ask anybody.
J33f: It's called not metagaming, lady.
J33f: Deal with the consequences.
T: I was a bitch ICly because that was my characters thought at the time which I explained in the post.
T: You take everything pretty seriousyl for someone that pretends not to care.
J33f: And?
J33f: Oh, I do care - that's just it.
J33f: Lol
J33f: I've invested time and money into Valucre.
T: Yeah, about all the wrong things.
T: So have others.
T: Did sidewalk not donate as well?
T: And invest her time?
J33f: And they're where they're at.
J33f: lol.
J33f: not in literacy
T: Why attack someone so devoted to something you care about?
J33f: Wasting your time and investing it are two different things.
J33f: Right here, we're wasting time.
J33f: You just want to stick me, and it's really not going to phase me at all when I close this PM
T: Lol.
T: Alright.
T: I didn't do this to phase you.
J33f: Then why are you here?
T: I wanted to see your point to truly see if I was being pigheaded or if my first thoughts were the right ones.
J33f: What do you want me to say, to make you feel better about being here?
J33f: You would have thought you were right, beyond what I said here or not.
J33f: That's just who you are.
T: No, actually. I've changed my view on some things and have taken responsibility for some of your issues concerning the roleplay.
T: And I don't presume to know you beyond the screen hun so don't presume to know me.
J33f: You're on a rampage, and being nice to me would contridict all the nasty things said, so that just wont work. Might as well continue from where you're at, or people might point fingers.
J33f: Then tell me this.
J33f: A simple answer for a simple question.
T: Actually I am being nice. Quite nice, especially considering that I'm not usually when constantly bombarded with insults.
J33f: Do people on Valucre lack follow-through. Aside from vacations, etc.
T: Honestly?
J33f: No? I want you to lie to me.
J33f: Lol.
J33f: Simple question, simple answer. During interest checks, people jump on the bandwagon. And then bail when the time comes to start. Do people lack follow-through?
T: I think all people lack follow through. They explain it away with vacations, life, or whatever they'd like but it is what it is. It isn't solely Valucre, it isn't solely the net. It's everywhere. So taking that into account I'm going to use a favored phrase of yours, Don't be so damn butthurt about shit you can't control.
T: Or to put it even more simply.
T: Yes.
T: I think we're done now.
J33f: Lol.
J33f: Thank you.
T: Just wanted to see your point.
T: Appreciate you taking the time.
J33f: I'm just tired of starting shit and having people so excited about something, and then falling out at the last moment. It's the death of almost every RP - and we're not talking about a global scale, because we can't affect that. This is Valucre. A simple RP board.
T: So from here on out, can we not have unpleasant commentary anymore like there was on the board as of late?
J33f: Between you and I?
T: If you have an issue with me, please, talk to me and I will do likewise.
J33f: XD Surely. I have no qualms with you.
T: Awesome sauce.
J33f: Now.
J33f: >_>
J33f: You can be a stow-away on the ship Caladan and Rowan jacked.
J33f is typing...
J33f: All, back-of-the-bus and shit.Bookmark
T: To put this to bed completely I'm going to through this up on my blog. Everyone can see it's hashed out and stop jumping on our bandwagon.