A Day in the Life OOC

[Samal]

TO: Jeff
RE Jeff's post: here

The diamond and metal were grown together, such that the diamond is, I don't know, about 25% metal inclusion. The psychic-dampening metal negates psionic effects, as I stated, and as per the faux-amethyst hue of the diamond post-inclusion, its effects are lent (perhaps not wholly, it doesn't matter) to the diamond itself.

While the barrier may not be composed of psychic force, it is most definitely controlled by it, and so the presence of the metal weakens or corrodes that influence and thus also that spot on the barrier. This, combined with constant and precise control from Samal, means that the diffuse and weakened kinetic resistance of the barrier would be penetrated by the constant, narrow vector of kinetic force from the diamond.

Also, when Samal "exploded" the diamond, it didn't literally explode because diamonds don't do that (maybe under certain crazy conditions? I don't know, whatever, that's not what we're talking about). The post-penetration geomancy would better be described as Samal slicing up or separating segments of the diamond in the desired shape and projecting the needles outward. It's goddamn magic, not hitting glass with a hammer.

In addition, the light and heat of a collapsing cavitation bubble pretty much exist for a fraction of a millisecond, and are negligible enough to require extremely precise instruments to detect. While they are impressive in their instantaneous magnitude, the real notable effect of cavitation is the resulting shockwave (said shockwaves are what cause damage to propellers and other underwater machines which move fast enough to cause the relative low pressure required to create cavitation effects), which might have knocked the shards away or even had some sort of mild effect on Samal and Zaratonus - if the entire area were submerged in water. Also, the small individual size each of a hundred million bubbles would have to be to fit in the very thin, very small barrier would result in drastically less impressive cavitation effects. Perhaps it would be enough to raise the temperature of the water barrier by a fraction of a degree, or something. I'm not actually sure that cavitation heat increases ambient water temperature at all.

So stop being a bitch and fight me like someone who isn't menstruating plz.

Or at least message me if you have a problem with what's up, instead of trying to insult me both IC and OOC in the thread.

[Zenith]

I'm not going to get into this or do this, so lemme lay it out.

You came into my thread.
You posted unexplained shit in your post. Like "Omg, Metal is Diamondz!!"
I called it as I saw it.

Now, I'm not changing my post - so you can accept what you got, or you can leave my thread, just how you rudely interrupted it.

[Zenith]

With an upward flick of his wrist as he spoke, a small handful of dirt rose from the ground and collected in his palm. It instantly turned black, then red in a short flash of heat as it compressed into a very tiny diamond.

The diamond began to grow, the added impurity manifesting as fissures of violet metal which lent their hue to the carbon.

Each end digging into fingertip and thumb, the diamond was now a sharp, finger-sized stone.

Suddenly the crystal shard in his hand was hurtling through the air, whistling as it aimed to spear the errant professor's gut.

Unfortunately for Edwin, the diamond shard would not be so easily deterred.

It wasn't a shard, at this point - but a "fist sized object" of sorts.

If it was a mental barrier, the projectile would be slowed just slightly as the metal spliced throughout the diamond dampened and corroded its psionic opposition. Even if the impure object did not have the negating force required to pierce the barrier in its own right, the explosive propellant force of Samal's geomancy would easily be enough to shatter through a single weakened point on a large, hastily constructed sphere of force.

While I admire your thoughts to your own superiority, just because it might take your character more time to do something than it takes someone else's character, it doesn't really give you the false-hearty right to assume that it's "weaker". It's a wide debate on how Psion's should be used in battle, because most of their actions revolved around minute actions (to them), by using their brains to shield or attack with (already stored, most of the time) energy. Don't mistake a haste barrier for a weak one.
Now, you've also just jumped from using diamond and crystal to metal - which no where before did it state, so it's not accepted. If you've said it somewhere and want to make it clearer to me, I might care a little more than I don't right now. ;)

The diamond and metal were grown together, such that the diamond is, I don't know, about 25% metal inclusion. The psychic-dampening metal negates psionic effects, as I stated, and as per the faux-amethyst hue of the diamond post-inclusion, its effects are lent (perhaps not wholly, it doesn't matter) to the diamond itself.

No metal was involved. Anywhere.
Therefore, no metal was involved. ;) Catch the drift?

And regardless of "fake" amethyst (((which is still a crystalline mineral) lol, not a metal either) good try, tho) it doesn't even matter. Diamond and Amethyst are both minerals, both crystals, both crystalline composite. I'd have excepted any of those.

Btw - who said that "negatively charged" metal was ever a "psi-dampener"??
Pretty sure that electrons are a Corporeal structure. They don't have much to do with the Astral essence.

[Samal]

From just one of my posts:

It was just Edwin the Psychic face to face with Samal the Guy Who Exchanged His Skull for One Made of a Psionically Resistant Alloy for the Day.

I establish that Samal came with psionically resistant metal for a skull.

A finger of his other hand, channeling the material in his skull, tapped the stone, and it shimmered into an artificial amethyst hue.

I establish that he used the material his skull is made out of (the metal) to add an impurity. You are meant to assume the amethyst hue is the color of the metal tainting that of the diamond (hence it is artificial, having been added to the diamond).

The diamond began to grow, the added impurity manifesting as fissures of violet metal which lent their hue to the carbon.

I very clearly define the added impurity (channeled from his skull) as a violet metal (from his skull) that is inset (it resides in fissures in the diamond) coloring the diamond (a form of carbon). Please note that amethyst is violet, and people use minerals and other objects with distinctive colors to pretty up color descriptions all the time.

For the crystal drop I apologize, my vocabulary likes to mesh similar but different words together.

And I pretty clearly explain why the diamond, a weapon specifically made to break a psychic quick barrier, would break through a psychic quick barrier.

I also never claim anything is negatively charged. You may be getting confused with negative energy, the magic energy that fuels the undead and necromantic spells (the opposite of positive energy, the energy the fuels life and healing spells), which I am just riffing off of D&D with. You may also be getting confused with the word negate, which in this context means to neutralize. As in, the metal (which is resistant or dampening to psionics) is neutralizing or canceling out some of the force of the psychic barrier.

[Zenith]

/forehead rub

So, is the negative energy accompanying the metal?

Enchanted?

[Samal]

Nope!

He's just channeling the energy. Hasn't come into play yet.

[Zenith]

... So, why again wont you just roll with a really cool idea like cavitation melting the metal shards?

Where the fuck are my kudos, and why are you making this boring and me want to quit writing again...

[Samal]

Well, because cavitation doesn't work that way at all. I mean, I'm hardly an expert, but I did spend a month or so eating up all the information I could find about mantis shrimp, pistol shrimp, and supercavitating torpedoes (and thus cavitation, supercavitation, acoustic pressure, etc etc etc).

Also, if I did, you'd just be coating yourself with a spray of molten diamond and that would make me D: .

[zombzeh]

... So, why again wont you just roll with a really cool idea like cavitation melting the metal shards?

Where the fuck are my kudos, and why are you making this boring and me want to quit writing again...

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[Afflatus]

Yeah, Samal seems to have this one pretty much wrapped up.

[Zenith]

Well, because cavitation doesn't work that way at all. I mean, I'm hardly an expert, but I did spend a month or so eating up all the information I could find about mantis shrimp, pistol shrimp, and supercavitating torpedoes (and thus cavitation, supercavitation, acoustic pressure, etc etc etc).

Also, if I did, you'd just be coating yourself with a spray of molten diamond and that would make me D: .

Cavitation, my dear boy -- is not only found in crustaceans.

Inertial cavitation is the process where a void or bubble in a liquid rapidly collapses, producing a shock wave.

And explain to me, why not? Since you're not an expert, but I still cant do it.

The way I understand it, is that cavitation is a pocket in fluid, that can be compressed to erupt -- usually causing damage, but yes, in Pistol crabs, which is obviously where I got the idea -- it does have the instantaneous pressure to reach insane heat. Be that as it may, it lasts moments. Long enough, I'd say -- for a Psionicist with the Mind's Eye to time such an event exactly to within a second, if that.

[zombzeh]

Well, because cavitation doesn't work that way at all. I mean, I'm hardly an expert, but I did spend a month or so eating up all the information I could find about mantis shrimp, pistol shrimp, and supercavitating torpedoes (and thus cavitation, supercavitation, acoustic pressure, etc etc etc).

Also, if I did, you'd just be coating yourself with a spray of molten diamond and that would make me D: .

Cavitation, my dear boy -- is not only found in crustaceans.

Inertial cavitation is the process where a void or bubble in a liquid rapidly collapses, producing a shock wave.

And explain to me, why not? Since you're not an expert, but I still cant do it.

The way I understand it, is that cavitation is a pocket in fluid, that can be compressed to erupt -- usually causing damage, but yes, in Pistol crabs, which is obviously where I got the idea -- it does have the instantaneous pressure to reach insane heat. Be that as it may, it lasts moments. Long enough, I'd say -- for a Psionicist with the Mind's Eye to time such an event exactly to within a second, if that.

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[Samal]

Inertial cavitation is exactly what I've been basing my argument on, because when cavitation occurs it is usually pretty much the same thing. When an object moves fast enough in water, it creates an area of low enough pressure that the water boils at its current temperature, which is what the bubbles are. This is what is happening when you kick your leg underwater in a swimming pool fast enough to form bubbles.

There is no temperature change here, and if you will notice, when the bubbles pop or collapse from water vapor back to liquid water, it doesn't burn your leg. Yes, the collapsing of the bubbles causes incredible instantaneous heat and light (the light is not detectible by the human eye when it actually occurs, again you need very precise instruments to detect it), but this is inside the bubble, as it collapses. You can create all the millions of cavitation bubbles you want by kicking around in a pool, but you'll honestly have a better chance warming the thing up with your body heat. The up-to-several-thousand-degrees-Kelvin temperature exists, again, for only a fraction of a millisecond, and is also difficult to detect (if you can find a source claiming that the heat lasts for an extended duration, maybe we can talk. A lot of people would LOVE to find so simple a way to generate sustainable surface-of-the-sun temperatures).

Cavitation bubbles don't errupt, they literally collapse. They are, again, composed of water vapor, and the collapsing is just that water vapor turning back into liquid water (liquid water occupies less space than water vapor). This collapsing displaces water around it, which creates the shockwave. The heat of the collapse exists only inside of the bubble while it is collapsing, the resulting shockwave is just at the ambient water temperature. Also, if pistol shrimp are your inspiration for this, then you are doubly wrong. If the heat of their collapsing cavitation bubbles affected the ambient water temperature as you are describing, they would cook themselves. Pistol shrimps' eponymous cavitation bubble attack is only the clever biological direction of the resulting shockwave, and this shockwave can only travel through water (and is not hot).

If it is the pistol shrimp method you are taking, your barrier would just splash apart, there would be no temperature alterations.

Trust me on this, while cavitation research was largely just a hobby of interest I also explored its possibilities for RP fites. I looked for what loopholes I could, but really the only use is for underwater combat.

On that note, if anyone is interested in submarine combat, look into supercavitation and the Russian VA-111 Shkval for travelling underwater while ignoring almost all drag and thus effectively flying through water. Regular cavitation effects (the shockwave) can make for impressive instantaneous directed attacks, perhaps around rifle power as long as you're not dealing with some sort of crazy physicist player.

[Samal]

Ok what's up.