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Die Shize

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    I love writing (obv), reading, TV, and used to be an avid gamer. Not so much anymore. Just depends on the game. Love outdoorsy things, but rarely go outdoors, and candles smell pretty good.
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  1. I may be wrong, but I believe Robbie worded it in a way like, if a person were looking at it from the view of a rigid game structure already, would responding differently to someone who, well, 'threadjacked' the roleplay be acceptable? As in, would responding IC that your character hopped into an uber-fridge and survived a nuclear blast that came out of nowhere from a character who just entered the thread be acceptable, on the basis that stupid + stupid = stupid and move on?
  2. kk lil nub tim 2 di
  3. I think so. This is not a novel we're writing; though we are indeed 'writing', we're roleplaying, and it's just not the same thing. We often are left with choosing where are our characters will go for the sake of roleplaying, and sometimes quite physically. For example, if the character Jack was in Genesaris yesterday, and today there are no threads in Genesaris that seem worthwhile, the roleplayer might suddenly throw Jack in Terrenus for that one awesome open thread he just saw--that happens to, coincidentally, take place not long after Jack's events in Genesaris. The point I'm trying to get across is that there is an inevitable 'merging' with IC and OOC--to an extent. The two are not strictly and entirely separate entities, similar to...time and space? As much as I try to roleplay with my characters 'to character', that is, writing Jack out as Jack would do things rather than as I would do things, no matter the consequences, sometimes I simply feel in a particular mood. If Jack is my only character because multiple characters confuse me (lol), and though Jack is generally a serious guy, I might be in a jolly mood for some comedic writing. So all of a sudden I change things up and, at least in this one roleplay thread I just entered, Jack is written entirely for comic relief. Because, in the end, this is roleplay, and we sometimes alter roles in order to play and have fun. I should have clarified in my above post that it may not be acceptable on this site to flat our ignore another's post even if that post was written with the word 'invalid' screaming at everyone. It may require immediate attention OOC or some kind of more appropriate response IC, particularly one that still makes sense based on the current story. But if I can get away with being completely stupid IC as a response to someone else's being completely stupid, I probably will. It's not like I'll ever look back at that thread and go: "Gee, that was really out of character for Jack." I don't keep that much track of my characters and, again, I'm not writing a novel.
  4. I hear that. I would also stress that though avoiding a nuke by hiding in a fridge doesn't necessarily validate the nuke going off in the first place. I've pulled off a few stupid stunts myself in the past in order to explain my character's survival, but only because it was very, very apparent that the roleplayer who dished out the 'attack' had no valid grounds to do so to begin with (such as suddenly popping up and saying "make your time ha ha ha" *button press lol*). Of course, outright ignoring such posts as if they weren't there or reporting them, assuming they're posted out of malice, works too, and informative correction toward the poster who just really had no clue is also a good tool. My first ever roleplay post was 40 years ago. I had just discovered roleplay on a LOTR board. I hopped in a thread all happy-clappy as a sheriff (because I wanted to be a sheriff) and demanded everyone pay me fines for trespassing in my forest. Of course, my recipients raised their brows both IC and OOC, but quickly deduced the size of the gap in my head where an idea should have been, and amiably corrected me. It can work.
  5. Yes, yes and yes and, ultimately, there's a reason I stopped going to that-one-site and came here. This place really isn't unique in the apparent trend of semi-closed and closed roleplays, so I can't fault it for that, but it taught me a good lesson in the wisdom of not automatically granting just any character the status of being free game and able to be targeted for combat whether the roleplayer is in the moos or not. My IC activity is quite barren now, but I've learned a good deal here. I don't always roleplay, but when I do, it's on Valucre. EDIT: I was going to correct the spelling to "mood", but I just might have created something there. Hmm.
  6. I will admit that a part of me does miss the freeform system I mentioned where danger was very real, 99% of roleplay threads were open and (mostly) skilled fighters could enter those threads and target other (mostly) skilled fighters with (mostly) plot-based goals, even if that goal was to get rid of certain races because they suck. But most of those people were outright okay with it, since the site began that way and oldies stuck to it while newer ones were introduced to it and accepted it. Eventually, though, people began adopting the "closed thread mindset" (I said it) and the join-thread-fight-char MO became far too pointless and irritating. I think it has a lot to do with what people are looking for in their roleplay, and who. That basis really determines what they'll accept and what they'll reject, and who. But it also has a lot to do with what people are okay with even if they're not looking for it. I've had a few instances where I'll start an open roleplay looking for an amiable adventure, when someone hops in saying my merry smuggler has a price on his head and so fite me. Even if there was no actual backstory behind this, and I wasn't necessarily looking for a fight, I'd probably be okay with one. It makes sense IC, it's dynamic, and it's what I expect out of roleplay. I don't think I put myself in any concrete category of "Gamer" or "Storyteller" so I probably straddle both. I generally stay away from choosing a category and let the categories choose me instead.
  7. Again, I think it first and foremost boils down to what kind of roleplay environment we're talking about. If it's a website that explicitly permits such conduct, then it's inherently permitted. Valucre, as we (should) all know, generally requires clear agreement to PVP before anything like that can even happen. Thread status should also be taken into effect. If the thread is "Closed" to begin with then the merry band of douchebags probably have no business posting in it to begin with. It's like, you can't tell the officer "Ya know, it's the darnedest thing, I just, I just didn't have mah bi-noc-u-lars out!" when the stop sign is ten feet behind where you are stopped. Honestly, most of what I quoted you on is just common sense. Akiris was also correct in regards to such things being downright dirty. I, as touched upon in my last post, know from guilty experience.
  8. That reminds me of what I somehow left out in my over 9k paragraphs: I once was in a Star Wars roleplay where this Sith dude was on Coruscant preaching something something when some Jedi rolled up and was all "stop it you sith you suck" and then some douchebag Sith rolled up and was all "FORCE CHOKE LOL" in his friggin' entrance post. From thereon out, ho boy, it was chaos. Suddenly every Jedi, Sith and their mothers entered the roleplay thread as though everyone was telepathically told IC what was going on. People came out of nowhere to fight each other. All, essentially, because of that first douchebag who decided it would be a good idea to double team the Jedi and, of course, make his first attack in his first post. I know because I was that douchebag. ba dum ba dum TSS
  9. Do you have any characters that break the fourth wall or are aware they're characters in a forum roleplay? I tried this a while back, for the sake of trying it, since I like to try things regardless, and I think I greatly succeeded in finding out how not to successfully break the fourth wall. Never tried it since. What if characters are sensitive to lore and try their best to keep it? What do you think of characters who are aware of lore changes? What if they perceive the edits as reality shifts? How would this affect roleplay? I think others have answered this better than I can. Have you ever had a self-aware character? I've thought about it but haven't been sure on how to pull it off. Mainly because most people don't have 'self-aware' characters, which would probably screw up most roleplay scenarios or just make my character appear insane, which is probably not the route I'd be going for if I wanted a sane self-aware character. How would a self-aware character deal with the fantasy setting if Valucre, knowing it's impossible, inconsistent, and very different from reality? Would probably buy a plot of land and grow as much baneweed as possible. How would they deal with drastically different lore from two territories? Probably the same way they deal with drastically different cultures from two territories today I guess. What are the ways someone could pull off having a fourth-wall breaking, self-aware character without breaking the mild powers rule? Don't metagame/godmod/godmode (honestly, to this day, even after reading articles, I don't understand the difference in the terms). Again, this has been better answered by others, but, simply put, don't actually use any 'fourth wall information' to the point that you're unfairly gaining an advantage over someone else. And of course, if your partner agrees to it, you can probably get away with doing just that. Maybe it's part of the plot.
  10. I, honestly (a word I say more and more since it's me talking), don't believe I know enough about roleplay to accurately say whether it's undergoing an identity crisis or not. Most of my roleplay has been limited to three websites in all my life and, while I've learned a lot about structure and mechanics and grammar and storytelling and a million ways to die, I therefore don't know a jack-a-poo about other roleplay sites and their this-that-and-these. I think this is a stellar topic you have brought up and the scenario you've provided, one that actually happened as you put it, is pretty sound. From my limited understanding of it, there seems to have been no OOC agreement for PVP to begin with, which is a system I'm intimately familiar with from the first site I ever went to. For the most part, people's characters were in very real danger in any IC thread they had, because not only could you be attacked whether you wanted to be or not, but there were pretty much no closed roleplays--every thread was open. Honestly, for the most part, this system worked. People were aware of this danger to begin with, at least, so they could always, well, go roleplay somewhere else. But it certainly had its problems. And this, not to digress (and certainly not to suggest), but to highlight, I hope, that such 'systems' are themselves divergent--further highlighting that my viewpoint on this topic is that there's probably no "identity crisis" with roleplay because roleplay doesn't seem to have any one identity to begin with. What this roleplayer did that you pointed out, what Jack--can I call him Jack?--did, sounds like he either gave less cents than ten cents buys butter about his character to begin with or was just so totally detached from most people's 'plz don't kill me' woes that, to him, there really was nothing to fuss over. "Okay, you killed my character, who I admittedly liked, but that's how it goes and I'll just make another and eat a jam sandwich afterward" or something of the sort. But is that an example of a "roleplay identity crisis" or just the identity of that particular roleplayer? Probably, I'm writing all this from a very limited perspective, which draws right back to my intro above, and maybe I need more, different, scenarios that might serve as evidence to such an identity crisis. That being said, even just based on my experience and observations on Valucre, I've personally seen nothing that would attribute to such a development. I love, love, to state these words so I'll state them again: roleplay is so much its own medium, such a fusion of novels, video games, movies, videos of other sorts (think "Off Topic"), music (definitely music if you've seen any of my IC posts) and more, all these things blended together to the point that they work, that I think roleplay never had a true 'identity' to begin with. Rather, roleplay has many identi-ties, which makes any one identity crisis difficult to achieve. NOW CHECK THIS OUT
  11. I touched you too!?!? I only remember touching Albireo. We did, after all, sleep together. More than once...
  12. I lol'd like there was butter between mah lipz
  13. Few, and I mean few, manage to challenge me and end up a victor. Now take these virtual nuggets. I mined 'em from...NUGGETS!!