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I am attempting to identify traits/trends/behaviors a reasonable character would associate with the Enrele (not that Caeceila and company are particularly reasonable).  I don't believe, from the information provided, that Safeguard would be of use in this regard.  Also, I don't believe my characters would reasonably and legally have access to this information.

From what I understand, the Enrele possess a Borg-esque ability to adapt to standard detection methods fielded against them.

I recall that this was, somewhere, attributed to how quickly they reproduce, but I'm not certain if older generations also "adapt."  Erring on the side of caution, I'm guessing that older generations either adapt or are culled and replaced for the sake of whichever hivemind they belong to.

That aside, the only solid technique I've come up with is straight up possession of a host body.  Note that this would identify most mind controllers not by name but by means of control, and it wouldn't be possible to establish that a person is infected by the Enrele specifically without tracing interference with possession to a biological source.  However, if the parasite itself is possessed, a trove of information on the hivemind could, hypothetically, be extracted.

I've been discussing the matter with another forum member, who I will refrain from naming because doing so might spoil stuff, via private message.  Said forum member posited that Enrele-infected people might behave differently, causing others who have close ties to an infected subject to realize that something is amiss.  Said member also mentioned that the Enrele might bond with people of different age-groups, sexes, and species differently.  Some infestations, then, might be stronger than others.

One of my characters, Caeceila Glasmann, has attempted establish a causal link between suicides in Hell's Gate and the presence of Enrele, perhaps erroneously.  She is under the impression that people with a history of depression and/or other mental illness are more likely to commit suicide than those who are more stable.  Therefore, people with a history of mental illness who are in a bad way in Hell's Gate and haven't offed themselves are more likely, by her logic, to be Enrele-infected.

Caeceila Glasmann is planning an offensive against the Enrele in and around Hell's Gate.

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After the thread linked in the spoiler has concluded, I'll be posting in the Terrenus Military Chatter thread in an attempt to contact players whose characters are authorized to represent Michael Commager, Victory, "Bubble" from Chasing Damaged Threads, and other individuals who are unlikely to be compromised.  I don't know of many characters in Terrenus who possess psychic abilities, which seem to be necessary to combat the Enrele, so my characters are looking to capture Xer'Orian queens and princesses from Taen and tap into their network to contest the Enrele in a psionic battle.

The player I am communicating with via private messages is interested in potentially leading what I think is a more conventional assault against a different hivemind, the one that is might displace one of the Genius Loci.

One of Dolor Aeternum's characters, Ilyana Sevryn, has asked Caeceila and company how Enrele might be identified.  It is likely that the information Caeceila and company provide will, without their knowledge or approval, be relayed to the Abbadon Triumvirate.

I've contemplated checking out Yh'mi to determine if there is anything there that might bust an Enrele hivemind, but of late, I haven't done much digging there.  I'm assuming contact with an Eldritch mind would scar an Enrele hivemind like it would scar a normal mind.  I can source Lovecraftian horrors from my catperson cult, the leader of which has a spell list derived from Call of Cthulhu RPG Sixth Edition, but it would be much cooler to grab a terrorhorror that already exists.

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4 hours ago, The Alexandrian said:

I am attempting to identify traits/trends/behaviors a reasonable character would associate with the Enrele (not that Caeceila and company are particularly reasonable).  I don't believe, from the information provided, that Safeguard would be of use in this regard.  Also, I don't believe my characters would reasonably and legally have access to this information.

From what I understand, the Enrele possess a Borg-esque ability to adapt to standard detection methods fielded against them.

I recall that this was, somewhere, attributed to how quickly they reproduce, but I'm not certain if older generations also "adapt."  Erring on the side of caution, I'm guessing that older generations either adapt or are culled and replaced for the sake of whichever hivemind they belong to.

That aside, the only solid technique I've come up with is straight up possession of a host body.  Note that this would identify most mind controllers not by name but by means of control, and it wouldn't be possible to establish that a person is infected by the Enrele specifically without tracing interference with possession to a biological source.  However, if the parasite itself is possessed, a trove of information on the hivemind could, hypothetically, be extracted.

I've been discussing the matter with another forum member, who I will refrain from naming because doing so might spoil stuff, via private message.  Said forum member posited that Enrele-infected people might behave differently, causing others who have close ties to an infected subject to realize that something is amiss.  Said member also mentioned that the Enrele might bond with people of different age-groups, sexes, and species differently.  Some infestations, then, might be stronger than others.

One of my characters, Caeceila Glasmann, has attempted establish a causal link between suicides in Hell's Gate and the presence of Enrele, perhaps erroneously.  She is under the impression that people with a history of depression and/or other mental illness are more likely to commit suicide than those who are more stable.  Therefore, people with a history of mental illness who are in a bad way in Hell's Gate and haven't offed themselves are more likely, by her logic, to be Enrele-infected.

Caeceila Glasmann is planning an offensive against the Enrele in and around Hell's Gate.

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After the thread linked in the spoiler has concluded, I'll be posting in the Terrenus Military Chatter thread in an attempt to contact players whose characters are authorized to represent Michael Commager, Victory, "Bubble" from Chasing Damaged Threads, and other individuals who are unlikely to be compromised.  I don't know of many characters in Terrenus who possess psychic abilities, which seem to be necessary to combat the Enrele, so my characters are looking to capture Xer'Orian queens and princesses from Taen and tap into their network to contest the Enrele in a psionic battle.

The player I am communicating with via private messages is interested in potentially leading what I think is a more conventional assault against a different hivemind, the one that is might displace one of the Genius Loci.

One of Dolor Aeternum's characters, Ilyana Sevryn, has asked Caeceila and company how Enrele might be identified.  It is likely that the information Caeceila and company provide will, without their knowledge or approval, be relayed to the Abbadon Triumvirate.

I've contemplated checking out Yh'mi to determine if there is anything there that might bust an Enrele hivemind, but of late, I haven't done much digging there.  I'm assuming contact with an Eldritch mind would scar an Enrele hivemind like it would scar a normal mind.  I can source Lovecraftian horrors from my catperson cult, the leader of which has a spell list derived from Call of Cthulhu RPG Sixth Edition, but it would be much cooler to grab a terrorhorror that already exists.

Some information that may be of use:

Currently, there are five different kinds of Enrele, one for each hive mind.

Hivemind Aleth consists of the originals. They have not adapted or diverged in any meaningful way from the bestiary entry. The most accurate detection method is to pull someone's shirt off and see if there's a big ugly tentacle monster attached to the back, or otherwise use any detection that penetrates clothing. They probably also smell bad until the parasite manages full infection, because nasty creatures tend to be malodorous. This is the hivemind based out of Dougton, where the doomsday clock is ticking. Notably, I believe there is an untested injection-based drug/bio-weapon that was developed from one of Aleth's rescued victims. 

In Hell's Gate, there's Hasith. It's the first derivation of Aleth and is both less massive and lacking in tentacles. I would say it's similar to a cymothoid isopod, as its modus operandi is to enter through the mouth and replace one of the host's organs. There is a small window of detection during initial infection: trauma around the mouth, esophagus, and GI system; standard medical procedures up until the host organ is fully replaced. The new organ may have the appearance of swelling or inflammation depending on how hard the parasite is pushing the host body. Incidentally, Hasith never replaces the brain.

We have the other Enrele types hashed out, but in-character there isn't much in circulation about them. That said, Veth is similar in many ways to Hasith, but Daloth and Gamath are entirely different. 

Generally speaking, the host consciousness is no longer part of the body once infection is complete. For Aleth and Hesith, they're trapped in a separate mental space that could be described as an astral farm or an incorporeal data center. When attempting spiritual possession of an Aleth victim, one character was able to enter this mental space and pull out the imprisoned/suspended consciousness. That said, it isn't like the process is perfect. Some host consciousnesses fight back, which may result in Enrele that are erratic. In terms of mental illness, the reasoning is sound. Enrele are constantly optimizing their hosts, and are only able to mimic host behavior to the extent that they can act. They aren't all perfect actors, and some of them might suffer from a kind of psychic leakage from host minds that create subconscious warnings for loved ones. 

As far as Enrele host interactions w/r/t demographic differences, that's dealer's choice. Too many variables for me to comfortably dictate that to someone. Up to you!

Exposing an Enrele to psionics or an Eldritch mind may have unintended consequences, but I leave how the actual interaction happens and how beneficial it us up to the players. 

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18 hours ago, desolate milkshake said:

I believe there is an untested injection-based drug/bio-weapon that was developed from one of Aleth's rescued victims

I would like to build off of this occurrence with Ilyana's recent buy in to a company that is selling products that have injection as a primary method of 'consumption'. I will try and scour through the threads to see if I can find where this occurred but if anyone has a link for me then that would be great.

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On 9/3/2019 at 9:29 AM, Dolor Aeternum said:

I would like to build off of this occurrence with Ilyana's recent buy in to a company that is selling products that have injection as a primary method of 'consumption'. I will try and scour through the threads to see if I can find where this occurred but if anyone has a link for me then that would be great.

This was over four years ago so it's a little fuzzy, but I'll recap and throw some links to you.

A tap on the shoulder in a dark alley. It looks like we never reached the drug manufacturing stage. To summarize the summary, a female gnome named Detta had an incurable disease, the White Plague. When she was body-snatched, the Enrele cured her. It was hypothesized that the Enrele-charged White Plague antibodies from a desnatched individual could be leveraged to create an anti-Enrele drug.  Both Detta and the specialist treating her were kidnapped/rescued from the hospital she was in and presumably taken to an anti-Enrele black site.

While the drug itself wasn't created in-character, the ingredients and patents should be out there and acquirable. 

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