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Interest check for legal drama, reposted with further details.

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Reposting this due to my original having been posted with little details, causing lack of interest moreso than normal. Someone told me that I should lock the original thread and repost. Sorry if that method is frowned upon here, however now that I've ironed out many of the details in addition, i'd like those who initially read my poorly put together thoughts may reignite interest for such a thing. The following is copied from the edited version of the original thread, with some formatting flair added. I've also added tags and a prefix to properly convey my intent. I'm not sure what post time limit I should look for for this kind of rp, because I'm not even sure if there will be any interest

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I've been thinking for quite a while of trying to find a way to have a legal drama role play. Set in alternate history real life in the late 1980s. I'm not sure how to proceed with such, yet, but I'd like to check for interest before I set about writing anything out or making a character to do so.

Addition:

Basically how I'd like to run this to is as either a small group acting as investigators and witnesses in the trial, with one person as narrator for what evidence is found by them, witness Npcs and the opposing counsel, and other parts of the court and world. 

This role play would require a bit of time investment toward research of laws on the part of the narrator, and in character research to that effect. 

The case would consist of the death of a well known, but minor politician within the city. The investigators would need to use the evidence to convince the jury of the innocence or guilt of the suspect based on that evidence. The trial and investigation shall have the following steps.

1.) Death of victim

2.) Prefile Investigation determinating cause of death, and method (whether it was murder or not). This will include interviewing witnesses.

3.) Filing suit: If the players find enough evidence to rationalize it as a crime, then the players or npcs can decide to charge someone with the crime.

4.) Arraignment: this is where (in this rp) the suspect will be arraigned and asked to submit a plea based on the narrator. This plea may have complications as an innocent can plea guilty or vice versa for a number of reasons, or insanity, or in some cases crime of passion. If a player is acting as defense counsel, they will have interviewed their client and know whether they are actually innocent or guilty and will be charged with acquitting their client regardless of actual guilt. This step is actually is a combination of multiple steps in real life for entertainment and creativity's sake. In character the players will be given time before the next court date. And at this arraignment the judge will decide whether the suspect will be held in jail or released on bail or bond.

5.)Pretrial Investigation and Discovery: this step is further investigation between the arraignment and trial. Due to discovery the defense and prosecution may investigate different avenues of evidence, but must share all evidence. Any evidence not given in discovery is inadmissible (unusable) in court. This step may be repeated at any time at request of the counsel and approved by the judge. 

6.)Evidence submission hearing: this will be a court hearing in which evidence is provided to

7.)Jury selection: this step is where defense and prosecution attempt to choose a jury that is most likely to be "fair" often times political and racial prejudices based on statistics, as well as case details will push this narrative step forward. Both sides will use those details to strike potential jurors from selection for either side or cause recommendation for certain jurors. Some jurors will be stricken and recommended by both sides for different reasons. This will occur before trial and during the Investigation and discovery.

8.)Trial: this step may take multiple hearings, but this is where both counsels use the same evidence at hand to prove or disprove guilt. The counsels will each get opening statements which is telling the jury judge and audience what they believe the evidence will show, making their position known. 

9.)Jury deliberation: this step will only be included if a player or players are jurors. The jurors will talk about the evidence and use such to decide how they wish to vote. The jury must be unanimous in deliberation before announcement of guilt. If unanimously found guilty, they will also argue their opinion of sentencing.

10.)Announcement of finding: this is when the Jury lead announces their vote. If not unanimous, then they can explain why and request more investigation and discourse. If found guilty they also announce their recommendations for sentencing. 

11.)Sentencing hearing: if found guilty then the counsel can debate sentencing. The defence obviously trying to reduce sentencing at minimum away from the death penalty.

12.)Sentencing: this happens at the end of sentencing hearing. The judge uses the arguments of the opposing counsels and the jury recommendation to decide sentencing.

13.)Appeals: if players wish, then the case can be taken to appeal court. Contrary to popular belief, appeals court cannot overturn a case based on new evidence. Only based on the mistreatment of facts and evidence by those involved. Appeals can appeal the finding of guilt or innocence, or the sentencing.

14.)Countersuit: if the defendant of the case is found innocent, then due to any jail time due to not being released on bail or bond during the trial, the cost of time and money from their defense, the loss of income or employment due to their arrest, or the emotional, social, or physical distress, or defamatory media caused by the suit, the defendant may pursue a countersuit for this damages. Or lawsuits against other entities which caused such due to their trial. These cases will be separate from the murder trial and mostly will take place in a civil suit, taking the same pattern as the original trial.

The positions players may take with their character are as follows, all others unlisted will be played by the narrator;

Defendant, Prosecution counsel, Defense counsel, Jurors, Investigators.

I said before that I would like an alternate reality modern campaign originally, however a modern fantasy campaign would also work. So long as a modern-like court system exists. This would allow players to bring existing characters as jurors, defendant, or investigators.

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19 hours ago, supernal said:

Would you like a banner announcement to help advertise your check?

That would be nice, but is not necessary. Its already been a few days, and people have had time to look over if they'd been interested. Thank you for the offer, however.

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On 6/21/2020 at 12:53 PM, Papershoggoth said:

That would be nice, but is not necessary. Its already been a few days, and people have had time to look over if they'd been interested. Thank you for the offer, however.

You're not wrong there. On the other hand you're likely leaving proverbial money on the table. Another way to look at it is that it's "only" been a few days and that only "some" people have had time to look it over. It could be that the check got 100% "market exposure" right away and no one was interested but more likely there were members who haven't been on the site in the time your thread was featured or near the top of the water cooler forum, or who have been but didn't see it through distraction or inattentional blindness or something like that. Did Fennis find this thread because he just happened upon it or because you and I chatting in it bumped it and brought it up on the list? That sort of thing

At any rate I'm definitely not trying to argue you into a pigeonhole, just hopefully giving some food for thought for the next interest check you do. I've seen a lot of interesting ideas that took off only after basically delivering it to everyone's doorstep and want to make sure you knew it was an option

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I could play the lady who types out everything said owo

 

But I sadly know nothing about law to be of any help outside of the perpetrator at best.

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